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of a representative democracy across 13 large land areas that have different economies, different modes of production, different religious values, different histories, different outlooks on things. when they came together, the 55 who gathered in philadelphia had most of them, not all of them. most of them had an imperative that they were going to create something like a representative democracy out of all these different element. they had to give up almost everything but that. they came with a lot of different ideas about what they were going to do and nobody came away with what they wanted. except a very remarkable thing. >> host: these are very polarized times. congress and the 1790s is as polarized. if we think the media polarized our intent today, we have been anything. so how were they able to compromise plan went similarly polarized times it's hard for us to compromise them? >> guest: they didn't like it better than we liked it. somebody said in the ever been able to track this boat. maybe you know who sent it. politics is compromise, everything else is theater. we have a lot of theater right n
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